Comments on: The Truth About the Firefox “Pipelining” Trick http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/ Helping Geeks Make Money Online Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:47:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Matt http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1940 Matt Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:08:12 +0000 http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1940 I just tried this using Google image searches. Without pipelining, the pages loaded in an average of about 2.75 seconds. With pipelining, the average was about 2.25 seconds. Subjectively, the delay before the first image loaded seemed about the same, but the delay between the first image loaded and all images were loaded seemed much shorter. I just tried this using Google image searches. Without pipelining, the pages loaded in an average of about 2.75 seconds. With pipelining, the average was about 2.25 seconds. Subjectively, the delay before the first image loaded seemed about the same, but the delay between the first image loaded and all images were loaded seemed much shorter.

]]> By: egon http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1939 egon Sun, 17 Aug 2008 00:16:54 +0000 http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1939 Glad I could help Richard :) I'm all too familiar with the situation you provided. Glad I could help Richard :) I’m all too familiar with the situation you provided.

]]> By: Richard Bello http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1938 Richard Bello Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:26:30 +0000 http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1938 O god... I am so sick of people all over the internet writing articles, and making videos tutorials with incorrect info about the network.http.pipelining.maxrequests hack... ------------------ 12 year old who knows nothing about computers writes: "Hey...What if i set it to a high number like 100? Idiot who copied and pasted the tutorial from another idiot writes: Wow IDK, i should try that, It would be super fast! 12 year old writes back: I am such 1337 hacker. ------------------- I so happy to finally get this info from someone who knows what they are talking about... Thanks O god… I am so sick of people all over the internet writing articles, and making videos tutorials with incorrect info about the network.http.pipelining.maxrequests hack…

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12 year old who knows nothing about computers writes: “Hey…What if i set it to a high number like 100?

Idiot who copied and pasted the tutorial from another idiot writes: Wow IDK, i should try that, It would be super fast!

12 year old writes back: I am such 1337 hacker.
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I so happy to finally get this info from someone who knows what they are talking about… Thanks

]]> By: Daniel http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1930 Daniel Mon, 28 Jul 2008 03:00:20 +0000 http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1930 Wow luckly i read your article because the nglayout.initialpaint.delay that i had set to 0 was slowing down the websites from full load. I booted that and its super fast. Thanks Wow luckly i read your article because the nglayout.initialpaint.delay that i had set to 0 was slowing down the websites from full load. I booted that and its super fast. Thanks

]]> By: Joe http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1919 Joe Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:41:42 +0000 http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1919 I don't know what all the hype is about, but I tried FF3 on my computer and it's not as fast as expected. When I recently upgraded Internet Explorer 7 to IE7 PRO (you could call it Internet Explorer 7.5), it now loads pages as fast as FF3, has many of the FF features, and downloads faster. I am now enjoying IE7 PRO better than FF3. I don’t know what all the hype is about, but I tried FF3 on my computer and it’s not as fast as expected. When I recently upgraded Internet Explorer 7 to IE7 PRO (you could call it Internet Explorer 7.5), it now loads pages as fast as FF3, has many of the FF features, and downloads faster. I am now enjoying IE7 PRO better than FF3.

]]> By: Joe http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1915 Joe Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:35:04 +0000 http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1915 I am setting my pipeline value to 60. Will that possibly further enhance the browser speed on Firefox 3? I am setting my pipeline value to 60. Will that possibly further enhance the browser speed on Firefox 3?

]]> By: schatten http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1911 schatten Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:22:45 +0000 http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1911 Seems a little bit faster. I am using FF 3, didn't notice a great difference yet, but may I will see it soon. Keep on testing it. Seems a little bit faster. I am using FF 3, didn’t notice a great difference yet, but may I will see it soon. Keep on testing it.

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]]> By: jon http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1902 jon Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:21:17 +0000 http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1902 I enabled pipelining a while back. Over time I noticed that some graphics sites, with thumbnails, weren't loading properly - - many thumbnails wouldn't load, unless I refreshed a couple of times. If I switched to IE, everything would load normally. So, one day the light bulb went off, and I disabled pipelining. And voila, all thumbnails now load normally. I've tried adjusting the number, even down to 2, but some thumbnails still wouldn't load. I don't know why this happens, but now I have pipelining disabled... and all's well. I enabled pipelining a while back.
Over time I noticed that some graphics sites, with thumbnails, weren’t loading properly - - many thumbnails wouldn’t load, unless I refreshed a couple of times.
If I switched to IE, everything would load normally.
So, one day the light bulb went off, and I disabled pipelining. And voila, all thumbnails now load normally.
I’ve tried adjusting the number, even down to 2, but some thumbnails still wouldn’t load.
I don’t know why this happens, but now I have pipelining disabled… and all’s well.

]]> By: inhahe http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1901 inhahe Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:43:24 +0000 http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1901 It only improves speed noticeably in certain situations. If you have to download many small files from a website (and it supports pipelining for that server), it will improve the speed drastically. After I enabled pipelining loading pages of thumbnails in MySpace or DeviantArt was shockingly faster. It only improves speed noticeably in certain situations. If you have to download many small files from a website (and it supports pipelining for that server), it will improve the speed drastically. After I enabled pipelining loading pages of thumbnails in MySpace or DeviantArt was shockingly faster.

]]> By: egon http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1900 egon Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:37:59 +0000 http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1900 Thanks for the comment parviziyi. The problem with Pipelining is that it's so dependent on so many factors, some people see a big difference, and some see nothing. Personally, the difference I've seen was minimal, but there none-the-less. Of course, there is also the possibility of the placebo effect on a lot of people as well, and that's fine too. Thanks for the comment parviziyi. The problem with Pipelining is that it’s so dependent on so many factors, some people see a big difference, and some see nothing.

Personally, the difference I’ve seen was minimal, but there none-the-less.

Of course, there is also the possibility of the placebo effect on a lot of people as well, and that’s fine too.

]]> By: parviziyi http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1899 parviziyi Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:08:24 +0000 http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1899 When I enabled pipelining in Firefox there was no perceptable improvement in speed. I think the improvement must be small, if it exists. Anybody claiming to report "The Truth About the Firefox Pipelining Trick" must state how much faster downloads are with the pipelining enabled and this report doesn't do so. For the man to crow "I love this feature, and use it to it's fullest" without quantifying what difference it makes, sounds like snake oil salesmanship to me. When I enabled pipelining in Firefox there was no perceptable improvement in speed. I think the improvement must be small, if it exists. Anybody claiming to report “The Truth About the Firefox Pipelining Trick” must state how much faster downloads are with the pipelining enabled and this report doesn’t do so. For the man to crow “I love this feature, and use it to it’s fullest” without quantifying what difference it makes, sounds like snake oil salesmanship to me.

]]> By: BarryW http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1887 BarryW Thu, 22 May 2008 11:30:10 +0000 http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1887 Just moved from FF 2.0.0.14 to 3.0 RC1 - it's very fast even without the pipelining tweak. Enabled pipelining and works very well with most websites except banking sites it seems. Suggest you try logging into your bank account with pipelining enabled to see what happens. My bank site jams up with pipelining enabled so I've gone back to the default mode. The rendering speed of FF 3.0 should help the speed freaks - currently 10x faster than IE7. Just moved from FF 2.0.0.14 to 3.0 RC1 - it’s very fast even without the pipelining tweak.

Enabled pipelining and works very well with most websites except banking sites it seems.

Suggest you try logging into your bank account with pipelining enabled to see what happens.

My bank site jams up with pipelining enabled so I’ve gone back to the default mode.

The rendering speed of FF 3.0 should help the speed freaks - currently 10x faster than IE7.

]]> By: inhahe http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1859 inhahe Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:19:41 +0000 http://egonitron.com/2007/05/25/the-truth-about-the-firefox-pipelining-trick/#comment-1859 Pipelining isn't about opening multiple simultaneous connections to the webserver; it's about sending multiple requests in a single connection (and possibly even a single packet) without waiting for response for each one. The frustrating thing is that it's hardly ever used because *some* webservers which pretend to support HTTP 1.1 don't support pipelining, even though they're *required* to according to the HTTP 1.1 spec (browsers aren't required to, only servers), and since it's supposed to be assumed that they support it, there's no good way to tell whether one does or not, so browsers like FireFox tend to play it safe and a) disable pipelining by default, and b) use heuristics to determine whether to use it when it's enabled. Wikipedia says that most webservers support it, and as the only exceptions lists a couple of versions of IIS. So I'm thinking maybe we can thank Microsoft for doing things their own way as usual - whatever's convenient for them - thus preventing web browsing from becoming much faster and more efficient for everyone. I suppose it would have been better if they had anticipated that some people (like Microsoft) would screw it up and made pipelining optional and included a spec to indicate whether it's supported in the http header. But I guess hindsight's 20/20. Pipelining isn’t about opening multiple simultaneous connections to the webserver; it’s about sending multiple requests in a single connection (and possibly even a single packet) without waiting for response for each one.

The frustrating thing is that it’s hardly ever used because *some* webservers which pretend to support HTTP 1.1 don’t support pipelining, even though they’re *required* to according to the HTTP 1.1 spec (browsers aren’t required to, only servers), and since it’s supposed to be assumed that they support it, there’s no good way to tell whether one does or not, so browsers like FireFox tend to play it safe and a) disable pipelining by default, and b) use heuristics to determine whether to use it when it’s enabled.

Wikipedia says that most webservers support it, and as the only exceptions lists a couple of versions of IIS. So I’m thinking maybe we can thank Microsoft for doing things their own way as usual - whatever’s convenient for them - thus preventing web browsing from becoming much faster and more efficient for everyone.

I suppose it would have been better if they had anticipated that some people (like Microsoft) would screw it up and made pipelining optional and included a spec to indicate whether it’s supported in the http header. But I guess hindsight’s 20/20.

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